Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts

November 12, 2008

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One of the running jokes in the game is that "Grabbed by the Ghoulies" did not do well commercially. The best way to see this is in Banjoland. In the trashcan from the Cloud Cuckooland part of the park, there are many unsold copies of "Grabbed by the Ghoulies."

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One of the forms L.O.G. was to take was an old Ultimate! Play the Game cartridge. Ultimate! Play the Game was Rare's old name before it was changed.

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subdirectory_arrow_right Banjo-Tooie (Game)

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Infamously, the ending cutscene of Banjo-Tooie has series antagonist Gruntilda threaten "Just you wait until Banjo-Threeie!". Contrary to popular belief, the lead designer for the Banjo-Kazooie series, Gregg Mayles, has stated that a direct sequel to Banjo-Tooie was never planned for development, and that the supposed "tease" was merely a joke, playing on how the word "Threeie" would be unpronounceable in British English. Instead, Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts was actually the third attempt at creating a different kind of Banjo-Kazooie game to act as the third mainline installment in the series. The game initially began development as "Banjo X", a morphed "remake" of the first game for the original Xbox which featured some new assets and items. When development shifted to the Xbox 360, Mayles stated the game shifted to being about "an AI-controlled Grunty, who would be competing against Banjo in all the worlds". Around this time, development began on a kart racing title called Banjo-Kazoomie, which programmer Brendan Gunn reported working on for about two weeks. All of these builds were planned to incorporate multiplayer gameplay, but none of them made it far into development before being consolidated into what would become Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts.

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Gregg Mayles tweets:
https://x.com/Ghoulyboy/status/1308896701231624192
https://x.com/Ghoulyboy/status/1309170888928120839
https://x.com/Ghoulyboy/status/1309171571563663362

Unseen 64 article:
https://www.unseen64.net/2018/08/23/banjox-threeie-xbox-cancelled/

Lost Media Wiki articles:
https://lostmediawiki.com/Banjo-Threeie_(non-existent_sequel_to_platformer_game_series;_early_2000s)
https://lostmediawiki.com/Banjo-Karting/Banjo-Kazoomie_(lost_prototypes_of_%22Banjo-Kazooie%22_racing_games;_mid-2000s)#cite_note-2

Brendan Gunn statement:
https://web.archive.org/web/20120913235832/http://www.rareminion.com/banjokarting.html/

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After getting 6000 music notes, you can ask Bottles the truth of Stop N Swop. When you ask him, he says "I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you, and we couldn't do that in a game of this rating. Put it out of your mind and think happy thoughts! Thanks for the notes!"

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During the games opening, the radio behind Banjo and Kazooie plays 'Windy', the over world theme of Conker's Bad Fur Day.

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Sometimes the loading screens will play a slightly slower remix of the pause theme from Battletoads.

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A Nintendo 64 can be seen next to Kazooie's Xbox 360 in the opening cutscene.

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In the skip outside Banjo's house, removing all of the junk from it reveals some unusual objects referencing other Rare games. These include a skeleton's skull from Grabbed by the Ghoulies, Fudgehog from Viva Piñata and a portrait of a bearded old man, possibly Sabreman, one of Rare's earliest characters. There's also a sign with the Rare logo on it, Banjo's banjo, a pink toy dog and what appears to be the Ice Key from the infamous Stop 'N' Swop feature. It should be noted that these objects are part of a texture on the bottom of the skip and cannot be picked up.

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subdirectory_arrow_right It's Mr. Pants (Game)

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In the level, "LOGBOX 720" from Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts, the player can find a giant It's Mr.Pants Xbox disc, however, the game was only released on the Game Boy Advance. Many websites assumed this was a hint that an Xbox Live Port was planned, but Rareware responded by saying, "Our website mascot that somehow managed to get his own game. It's highly doubtful he'll get another."

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The vehicle-building gameplay of Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts has been claimed by many Banjo-Kazooie fans, often with an underlying anti-Microsoft or pro-Nintendo console war motive, to have been a corporate mandate from Microsoft to Rare, who supposedly wanted to make another 3D platformer like the previous games in the series. However, this is a complete lie as the only known influence on Nuts & Bolts from Microsoft was that they wanted Rare to make games aimed toward a younger demographic. Otherwise, the creative decisions made with Nuts & Bolts were entirely on Rare's development team, which was burned out by 3D platformers and genuinely believed that vehicle-building was a natural evolution of the genre.

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Reddit posts collecting all of the below sources and specific quotes from them:
https://www.reddit.com/r/BanjoKazooie/comments/grmk7k/comprehensive_list_as_to_reasons_why_nuts_bolts/
https://www.reddit.com/r/BanjoKazooie/comments/gro2kc/child_post_list_of_comprehensive_quotes_from_rare/

GamesRadar 2008 interview revealing Nuts & Bolts has nothing to do with Microsoft's buyout:
https://www.gamesradar.com/banjo-kazooie-nuts-bolts-interview/

IGN 2012 interview revealing demographics mandate:
https://www.ign.com/articles/2012/08/22/ex-rare-member-shares-info-on-cancelled-game

Gregg Mayles 2018 interview revealing Rare wanted a different approach to platformers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9h9Y55vpHZo

VideoGamer 2008 interview revealing that they thought a platform-centric game would be boring to work on, and was not inspired by user-generated games like LittleBigPlanet:
https://www.videogamer.com/previews/banjo-kazooie-nuts-and-bolts-interview/

Wired 2008 interview revealing Rare thought platforming games stopped being innovative after the Nintendo 64, and the team expanded from 13 to 71 people so they could not make projects like they used to:
https://www.wired.com/2008/05/qa-banjo-kazooi/

Xbox Achievements 2008 interview revealing Rare thought the old movement system was stale, that they wanted players to come up with different solutions to problems, and assumed fans would be mad if they remade a game instead of a making a sequel:
https://www.xboxachievements.com/news/news-1567-x360a-Meets--Rare-and-Talks-Banjo-Kazooie--Nuts---Bolts.html

Gamereactor 2008 interview revealing Rare thought the blockier character designs felt more BK than the smooth versions of N64 models:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn9Il7IKgEI

The Rare Witch Project 2008 interview revealing Rare believed vehicle-building was the next evolution of platforming games, and that Nuts & Bolts was the third attempt at a third Banjo-Kazooie game:
https://web.archive.org/web/20081223105418/http://www.rarewitchproject.com/?id=1655

Kikizo 2008 interview revealing Rare wanted to test the power of the new Xbox 360 hardware:
http://archive.videogamesdaily.com/features/banjo-kazooie-nuts-and-bolts-rare-interview-p1.asp

Edge Magazine 2010 interview revealing Conker Live & Reloaded's negative fan reception caused Rare to rethink a remake:
https://web.archive.org/web/20101015012359/http://www.next-gen.biz/features/rare-vintage-part-two

Rare 2018 interview revealing Gregg Mayles was bored with the formula and did not know where to take it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2QVnSJDAl4?t=3556

Steve Mayles 2020 interview stating Banjo-Threeie is Nuts & Bolts, putting work into reimagined worlds from Banjo-Kazooie is the same amount of work as new worlds, at one point Rare's management moved all but two people from the Banjo-Kazooie project, Xbox Market was different than the Nintendo market so they weren't sure it'd sell, and Rare was burnt out from making 3D platformers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp8n7QKJZHs

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Originally, Boggy's three children (Groggy, Soggy and Moggy) were intended to appear in the game as part of a challenge called "Don't Bring Your Kids to Work Day", but the challenge was scrapped due to time constraints. In 2019, it was discovered that Soggy and Moggy not only had fully completed models in the game, but also AI that was reused from the Minjos in the game and unused voice clips. They can appear in Banjoland Act 6 during the challenge "Home Improvements: Igloo Edition", where Soggy can be found running on top of Clanker, while Moggy can be found running on top of the display case, both far away from where the actual challenge takes place. It is currently unknown if Groggy is anywhere in the game.

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