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Xbox "Durango" requires mandatory game install
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So how does everyone feel about this? Or about used games in general? Will this make anyone here change their mind about choosing Microsoft's next console when it comes out?

I honestly think the whole "no used games" thing is pretty ridiculous. I buy a lot of used games, especially when it comes to games I'm not sure I'm going to like. And to me, a lot of the games coming out these days don't seem like they're worth their $60 price tag. I have purchased very few games that were longer than 10-15 hours AND were good enough to play through again. When I shell out $60 for a game, I expect it to keep me busy for a while. However, if they enforced the "no used games" thing AND lowered prices, I think I'd be fine. Lowering the price of a game seems like a doable thing, because developers won't have to make up for losing profits through used games.

So what do you guys think?
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I think they are wanting to try something new however what will come of this will be severe backlash from the gaming community. Sure, you will have those die hard fans who will buy the next Microsoft console and/or the PS4 (I will probably be one of them) and we will just suck it up and pay the up front game fees and we will decide if it is really worth it or not. I do not mind playing devil's advocate with this topic because I feel that this discussion can never be truly debatable until both sides have been investigated beyond mere speculation.

Just my opinion.
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(03-20-2013, 11:07 PM)Xannidel Wrote: I think they are wanting to try something new however what will come of this will be severe backlash from the gaming community. Sure, you will have those die hard fans who will buy the next Microsoft console and/or the PS4 (I will probably be one of them) and we will just suck it up and pay the up front game fees and we will decide if it is really worth it or not. I do not mind playing devil's advocate with this topic because I feel that this discussion can never be truly debatable until both sides have been investigated beyond mere speculation.

Just my opinion.

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WHO STILL PLAYS XBOX AMIRITE? HYUCK HYUCK HYUCK
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SERIOUSLY THOUGH, this is just an irritating trend in game releases that I'm hoping goes the way of Nuudoru's ability to see his feet.
Crap, he doesn't come to the forums anymore so that terrible joke has no meaning :(
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(03-21-2013, 07:34 AM)Arjahn Wrote: SERIOUSLY THOUGH, this is just an irritating trend in game releases that I'm hoping goes the way of Nuudoru's ability to see his feet.

I got that reference.

Also, I think the gaming industry's big decisions should be made by referendum from a panel of experts rather than just imposing what they want because they know that the anger will eventually die down.
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(03-20-2013, 11:07 PM)Xannidel Wrote: we will just suck it up and pay the up front game fees

This really bothers me, but more so with Xbox Live/Ridiculous DLC pricing. If enough people said "Hey Microsoft, having to pay to play with my friends online is total bullshit. I shouldn't have to pay more to use the internet I'm already paying for", then I think Microsoft would would change their policies. Sony and Nintendo have free online multiplayer. Sure, there's PSN+, but considering how much free stuff you get from joining, you're practically stealing from Sony. And not to mention IT'S COMPLETELY OPTIONAL. Honestly, a lot of the people I talk with have the "Well Xbox is better because they told me they were, so I don't mind paying out the ass to play Call of Duty", but that's a whole different story.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that if enough people had a problem with it and refused to buy into this crap, they'd either have to change their ways or just flop out of the competition.
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(03-21-2013, 02:26 PM)Wardenclyffe Wrote: This really bothers me, but more so with Xbox Live/Ridiculous DLC pricing. If enough people said "Hey Microsoft, having to pay to play with my friends online is total bullshit. I shouldn't have to pay more to use the internet I'm already paying for", then I think Microsoft would would change their policies. Sony and Nintendo have free online multiplayer. Sure, there's PSN+, but considering how much free stuff you get from joining, you're practically stealing from Sony. And not to mention IT'S COMPLETELY OPTIONAL. Honestly, a lot of the people I talk with have the "Well Xbox is better because they told me they were, so I don't mind paying out the ass to play Call of Duty", but that's a whole different story.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that if enough people had a problem with it and refused to buy into this crap, they'd either have to change their ways or just flop out of the competition.

That would have to be AT LEAST 75-80% of the gaming community for them to rethink their shit.
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(03-21-2013, 02:33 PM)Xannidel Wrote:
(03-21-2013, 02:26 PM)Wardenclyffe Wrote: This really bothers me, but more so with Xbox Live/Ridiculous DLC pricing. If enough people said "Hey Microsoft, having to pay to play with my friends online is total bullshit. I shouldn't have to pay more to use the internet I'm already paying for", then I think Microsoft would would change their policies. Sony and Nintendo have free online multiplayer. Sure, there's PSN+, but considering how much free stuff you get from joining, you're practically stealing from Sony. And not to mention IT'S COMPLETELY OPTIONAL. Honestly, a lot of the people I talk with have the "Well Xbox is better because they told me they were, so I don't mind paying out the ass to play Call of Duty", but that's a whole different story.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that if enough people had a problem with it and refused to buy into this crap, they'd either have to change their ways or just flop out of the competition.

That would have to be AT LEAST 75-80% of the gaming community for them to rethink their shit.

So maybe paying for subscription based multiplayer is a tough issue to tackle, but banning used games will be an issue that will probably upset 75-80% gamers, especially when you factor in the people who sell used games for a living.
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(03-21-2013, 02:39 PM)Wardenclyffe Wrote:
(03-21-2013, 02:33 PM)Xannidel Wrote:
(03-21-2013, 02:26 PM)Wardenclyffe Wrote: This really bothers me, but more so with Xbox Live/Ridiculous DLC pricing. If enough people said "Hey Microsoft, having to pay to play with my friends online is total bullshit. I shouldn't have to pay more to use the internet I'm already paying for", then I think Microsoft would would change their policies. Sony and Nintendo have free online multiplayer. Sure, there's PSN+, but considering how much free stuff you get from joining, you're practically stealing from Sony. And not to mention IT'S COMPLETELY OPTIONAL. Honestly, a lot of the people I talk with have the "Well Xbox is better because they told me they were, so I don't mind paying out the ass to play Call of Duty", but that's a whole different story.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that if enough people had a problem with it and refused to buy into this crap, they'd either have to change their ways or just flop out of the competition.

That would have to be AT LEAST 75-80% of the gaming community for them to rethink their shit.

So maybe paying for subscription based multiplayer is a tough issue to tackle, but banning used games will be an issue that will probably upset 75-80% gamers, especially when you factor in the people who sell used games for a living.
The obvious response would be
"Lol no Micro$oft, I won't be buying your console". Banning used games, if it happens, Microsoft have lost potential sales.
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(03-21-2013, 02:58 PM)BumblebeeCody Wrote: The obvious response would be
"Lol no Micro$oft, I won't be buying your console". Banning used games, if it happens, Microsoft have lost potential sales.

I know a few people who have said they'd switched to Sony solely because of that. A few more people I know really hate the "always online" and "always on, built in kinect" rumors floating around as well.



I think I've used "I know a few people" or "people I know" a few times now and yes, I am aware that citing "people I know" isn't really a valid source and doesn't really represent the gaming community as a whole. I'm just going off of what I know.
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A bit off-topic, but does anybody else think of the lizard from that movie Rango when they read the new X-Box's codename? I can't stop doing that every time I read the name.
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(03-21-2013, 05:38 PM)Antwan Wrote: A bit off-topic, but does anybody else think of the lizard from that movie Rango when they read the new X-Box's codename? I can't stop doing that every time I read the name.

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